Angela White on the Discipline of Being a Superstar

Angela White on the Discipline of Being a Superstar

If you’re meeting a Hollywood starlet for an in-depth interview, you go to the Chateau Marmont, on the eastern part of Los Angeles’ fabled Sunset Strip. But say you’re meeting up with a real-deal star — someone with her own production company, several awards on her shelf, a player with skin in the game. In that case, maybe you want something less flashy, the kind of tastefully renovated old-school joint where you might glance over her shoulder at a recent Academy Award winner flirting over a discreet cocktail with the breakout star from the talk-of-the-town streamer hit.

If that’s more your thing, then you go a couple of blocks up the Strip, cross Sunset and head straight for the bar at the Sunset Tower hotel.

It makes sense, then, that the comfortable lounge area of the Sunset Tower is where we have arranged to meet porn royalty. The kind of talent and businesswoman for whom — like Madonna, Cher or Beyoncé — first name should suffice. Angela.

Angela White arrives on time in her black sports car, wearing a sweater festooned with the brand name of the high fashion designer of the moment. Heads turn. Even surrounded by the cream of Hollywood — the real deal, none of those Chateau arrivistes and clout chasers — Angela makes an entrance. In the world capital of entertainment, the place where every aspiring entertainer in the world hopes to be officially rubber-stamped “a star,” the Sydney, Australia native is right at home.

“There’s no ‘Angela White’ character. When I got into the industry, it was about expressing and exploring my sexuality. It wasn’t about creating a character. It’s the way that I am, which is why I use my real name."

Angela is always Angela, on and off the screen. The perfect, porcelain-white face, framed by the impossibly straight silken curtains of dark hair, the impeccable makeup, those relentless eyes — her not-so-secret weapon, whence her signature intelligence and intensity beam out laser-like. Her figure, obviously. All those natural assets that she has refined into a brand, a business, a bounty.

“There’s no ‘Angela White’ character,” she explains, her sharp determination now carefully modulated and softened into something like someone sharing a confidence. “When I got into the industry, it was about expressing and exploring my sexuality. It wasn’t about creating a character. It’s the way that I am, which is why I use my real name, Angela Gabrielle White.”

This was a choice Angela made at 18, when she flew from Australia to Miami to shoot her first scene, something she had already been planning for four years. The initials of her legal name are right there in the moniker of her production company, AGW Entertainment, which has owned all her independently-produced content since 2011, including many of her lucrative “firsts” (anal, blowbang, gangbang, DP, etc.). Her academic publications — innovative, much-cited peer-reviewed work that radically incorporates sex-worker voices into a theoretical discussion of commercial sex — can also be found under her first, middle and last names.

“Obviously, in things like features, I will play a character that is written for me,” she elaborates. “But when I'm shooting gonzo where there's no requirement for me to play somebody else, I’m trying to engage in sex with my on-screen partner as myself. That's where I feel like I get the most genuine connection — when you can be vulnerable, come to the scene as yourself, when you touch your partner how you would touch them if the cameras weren't rolling, when you explain to them before the scene your likes and dislikes and actually try to create a genuine connection on screen. That to me creates the best porn. For me, that's what resonates with the fans. And I think that's been one of the keys to my success.”

Success has always been at the center of the Angela White narrative — failure was never an option. As 2022 turns into 2023, AGW is still on top of the game. She will not divulge how much money she is making, but will readily admit to being among OnlyFans’ top 0.01% creators — yup, the zero between the period and the one is crucial — letting industry watchers do the math. Ever since she moved to the U.S. to play the porn game in the big international leagues, back in 2016, Angela has hit every benchmark she set for herself, which is pretty much every one you can think of.

“I am very disciplined,” she says, in what may actually be an understatement. Though she comes from an Australian culture characterized as chill, laid back, free-spirited and no-fucks-given, Angela’s determination is already legendary in the industry, obvious to her colleagues and anyone who meets her. Her career drive, ambitions and business acuity are evident in everything from the big-picture trend-analysis conducted by her and a team solely devoted to her advancement, to minutely monitoring every shot of every photo shoot. “This one strand of hair is being a brat,” she tells the makeup artist during the XBIZ cover shoot, with the implicit mandate that the not-on-message strand be disciplined, stat.

Always metrics-aware and with the passion of a world-class competitive athlete, Angela speaks often of setting goals, pushing herself, and reaching those goals. This business language is constantly overlaid, by her and her team, on her origin-story narrative of fearless sexual exploration.

If this was a standard star profile, this would be the section where we delve into those origins, giving dates, stats, career landmarks and other chronological minutiae. This being Angela, however, there’s nothing standard about it. In her 30s — that treacherous time for a porn performer where market stereotypes and pressures force even the most iconic, boundary-breaking performers to contend with age — Angela reserves the right to be beyond those considerations.

As she gets more comfortable during our talk at the Sunset Tower, she willingly reveals some glimpses into her origins, and what drove her to become the Angela White that we all know and revere.

Although she belongs to the first generation of “digital natives,” Angela says that the first porn she ever saw, around puberty and the time when she started imagining a future centered around sex, was a magazine.

“I couldn't tell you the very first,” she says. “But I know that my first series of printed magazines was ‘People’ and ‘The Picture’ in Australia. And there was definitely ‘Penthouse Letters,’ the writing and the pictures. I remember being taught about the internet very early in primary school, and very soon after having a home computer.”

Her fascination with sex and sexuality began well before she could legally enter sex work. “I’ve always been fascinated by sex, even as a child,” she notes. “I didn't start in porn until I was 18, obviously, but I was very interested in sex and sexuality before that. And that's part of my story. I know it’s a difficult topic to talk about, but how can I tell my story without that experience?”

As she has often shared in interviews — incidentally, Angela is a transcriber’s dream, as her carefully thought-out statements come publication-ready, without verbal tics or repetition — at 18, while still in high school, she flew to Miami to shoot for niche adult publisher Score, then flew right back to Australia to finish school.

Young as she was, Angela never harbored illusions about Golden Age porn debauchery, be it “Girls Next Door”-era Playboy, bimbofied Barbie fantasies or riotous “Charlie Sheen after-party” scenarios.

“That was never something that I glamorized,” Angela confirms, sipping her drink. “It was always more about a community and knowing that I would be around people that thought like me, that wanted to have sex like me.”

"I find sex to be so transformative. And yet we're so scared of sex. Society is afraid of sex and the power of sexuality — particularly female sexuality, but sexuality in general.”

She says she has always been interested in film and photography, and even though she has explored her sexuality and kinks in her off-camera life as well, Angela has always found “doing it in front of the camera” especially interesting.

“My mom is a photographer,” she reveals. “So I've always been in front of the lens, and that must have had an impact on my interest in photography. I loved watching her develop film in the dark room, and just the whole process of film, especially watching a photo come to life in the chemicals.”

She identifies the two foundational experiences that began the Angela White saga: “Always being in front of the lens, and then seeing pornography for the first time.”

That epiphany revealed a new possibility to young Angela, a place where she felt she might belong. “A place where female sexuality, the expression and exploration of that, was celebrated,” she recalls. “Those things made me feel like, ‘Oh, I want to do this on camera.’”

Many performers respond to the drive to create, or the drive to succeed commercially or to explore the self. For Angela, all three were amalgamated from the get-go.

“Yeah, and also pleasure,” she says. “I’m creating a product, creating my own art, and seeing it all come together. I wanted to use pornography as a really safe space for me to explore my sexuality, to be creative sexually, to do it with other people who were like-minded. And I guess my performances have resonated with fans. It's hard to even call it a performance because the ultimate goal is for there to be no performance and for there to be a genuine sexual connection with the other person that I'm on screen with.”

Did she ever think, when she flew to that first booking, that years down the line she was going to be on the Sunset Strip, wearing couture and being interviewed for an exclusive cover story?

She answers without missing a beat.

“I never thought I'd get to where I am today,” she says. “Never. I just wanted to do something that I really enjoyed.”

There’s another dimension to the Angela White project: an intellectual pursuit.

“My participation in pornography is part of a broader ethnographic exploration,” she self-assuredly told XBIZ back in 2016, when she first began her full-time pursuit of the porn dream in the United States. “I love delving into the depths and breadths of my sexuality.”

In 2010, White produced an honor thesis titled, “Pornographic Becomings: Female Experiences in Pornography Beyond the Victim/Agent Divide,” which was later excerpted for “The Routledge Companion to Media, Sex and Sexuality,” a peer-reviewed academic collection published in 2017.

Yup, she may not have written the book — yet — on porn performance, but Angela Gabrielle White has most certainly written the standard chapter.

This is an underreported part of her career that she is very eager to talk about. After all, this is someone who has said many times that intelligence is her biggest turn-on, the thing she is most attracted to.

“The full thesis talks about the canonical narrative of victimization,” she expounds. “And how this constrains the way performers can speak about their experiences in porn, because they're always expected to start off answering the question, ‘Are you victimized? Are you degraded? Why on earth would you want to get into this industry where women are subordinated?’”

Even after so many years in the industry, White notes, she herself is still required to answer those same questions again and again. She emphasizes that when such assumptions drown out performers’ real, lived experiences, then stigmatizing and discriminatory views and policies continue ruining people’s lives.

“Everything is political in me,” she admits. “I think when it came to my fascination with sex, it wasn't just me wanting to physically explore sex. I also wanted to understand sex. And to understand the psychology of sex, the physicality, the anatomy of sex. I find even the spirituality of sex interesting. I find sex to be so transformative. And yet we're so scared of sex. Society is afraid of sex and the power of sexuality — particularly female sexuality, but sexuality in general.”

She is resolved “to subvert the canonical narrative” that takes agency away from sex workers and porn performers, as much as she can.

“I think that being a woman empowered and in control of her own sexual identity and her sexual image online, and owning the content and earning that money, is political in and of itself.

And so is her being able to enjoy sex and pornography.

“How can you watch one of my films and say that I'm not enjoying it?” she laughs. “You can see the pleasure that I'm having. I think that's transgressive and subversive, when the narrative is that women don't enjoy performing in pornography. There's another narrative, that I think is being changed now, which is that women don't enjoy sex. I think now we’re moving away from that. We do realize that women enjoy sex, but denying that is, historically, part of our culture, as is the belief that they shouldn't be using sex as a way to gain power and money and notoriety.”

Which brings us to power and money — yet another dimension of the Angela White story, and by no means a minor one. Never mind the recent backlash against the annoying, fake-empowering “girlboss” hype of 2010s; Angela’s persona as a businesswoman transcends any trend pieces. Although the mise-en-scene of “Angela as business magazine cover” may seem impossibly impeccable — Steve Jobs-like black turtleneck, alpha female stance, intimidating C-suit glare — in her case, it is 100% merited.

“Part of the reason that I started producing my own scenes and movies was I wanted to express my sexuality on my own terms."

Here is something that is not widely known about the Angela White empire: although she set out to dominate the studio porn game from 2016 onwards, Angela came in already a veteran of self-produced content creation. The pandemic-era OnlyFans revolution? Angela was doing that for a decade already.

It would be deceptive to only look at her “imperial year,” 2019, when Angela starred in acclaimed productions like Deeper’s “Drive” and Adult Time’s “Perspective,” before being crowned XBIZ Female Performer of the Year.

“When I won those awards, I was already building my own website and everything was all my own productions, my own content for a long time,” she points out. “I owned everything. I own my first anal, my first blowbang, my first gangbang, my first DP — they were all directed and produced by me, owned by me. For many, many years, since 2011.”

White admits that the multiple-hat-wearing requires a lot of effort. “Especially if you're producing something yourself, it's not just being a performer and turning up on set that day and doing your performance and going home. You have to decide on the type of location, you have to scout locations, you have to book the other talent and deal with their agent, you need to book your crew, find a videographer that you like to work with, a photographer, a production assistant. It’s a lot more work. But there's a lot of reward.”

Does her trusty team deal with logistics?

“No. That's me.”

White makes the phone calls herself?

“Yes,” she confirms, proudly. “Part of the reason that I started producing my own scenes and movies was I wanted to express my sexuality on my own terms. And while I had shot for a few companies, and I enjoyed my time with them, it was still bringing their vision and sexuality to life. They were choosing the locations, they were choosing the wardrobe. Even though I had a say in the talent, they were also ultimately choosing the talent. It was fun, but it still wasn't my vision.”

White says she knew that the only way that she was going to be able to gain creative control was by starting her own production company.

“At the point when I started shooting my own content, I hadn't done my first anal, I hadn't done any of those firsts. Not only did I then get to represent myself exactly how I wanted to represent myself in those scenes — with the wardrobe, with the makeup, at the location that I like, with the videographer I felt comfortable with, with the talent that I wanted — not only did I get to do all that, but I also got to own the content and get the profits from all that hard work, to this day.”

“I think it's empowering for a woman to be in control of her sexuality, her image online and also be in control of the profits."

Platforms may come and go. OnlyFans may give way to “the next OnlyFans.” But content is king, and Angela White, needless to say, is queen of content creation too.

How did she manage to get such a clear head start in the creator economy?

“I have a business mindset,” she says. “Even though I didn't come in motivated by making money or creating a business. I was motivated by my passion, my creativity, my desire. But I guess I've just always had a business mindset as well. If I'm going to put all this effort into something and create something that I love, I should also be the one in control of it and be the one reaping the benefits of it.”

As a longtime acolyte of noted thinkers Michel Foucault and Judith Butler, White also recognizes the implications for gender politics.

“I think it's empowering for a woman to be in control of her sexuality, her image online and also be in control of the profits,” she says. “There's a stereotype that this is an industry run by men profiting from the bodies of women. That's the stereotype — and I've never been one to be part of the stereotype. I've always paved my own path, and I think women should be in control of their content, and their image, and their sexuality.”

Perhaps the secret to White’s success is simple. “Do what you love” is a piece of career advice we have heard a gazillion times, but Angela has been living that maxim since the day she turned 18.

“I always prioritize my passion,” she emphasizes. “My passion is exploring my sexuality and its performance, so my entire life is really based around that. Even the things that I do when I'm not on camera, all, in a way, support my performance on camera. So, for example, if I'm not shooting, I'm going to the gym, I'm taking care of my body, I’m doing skincare regimen. I'm reading so that I can stay up to date with how people are theorizing pornography.”

She says that when she’s not creating content or running her businesses, she spends her time “looking at what new journal articles are out, just going into bookstores, seeing what's being published. And then when I find a good book, I always scour through the bibliography as well to get any recommendations. I read a lot about pornography, but I also read a lot about sex and sexuality and love.”

Although most of her book collection is still in Australia, well organized in alphabetical order, her Los Angeles home, she says “has books just strewn around on every shelf in every room.”

In 2016, when White set out for the territories, landed in Los Angeles and shortly thereafter signed with the Spiegler Agency to commence her meteoric ascent, she already had a successful content production business and years of experience in the industry.

Still, she makes clear, she was ready to do whatever it took to get to the top. And then some.

“I absolutely, absolutely,” she emphasizes, “did the grind. Since I moved here and until the pandemic hit, I was deep in the trenches, in the grind, shooting with every company.”

The stats are indeed staggering. White shot 190 scenes in one year and kept up that pace in 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019. That is, most definitely, being in the trenches.

During that time, she says, she had to fight to protect her brand in those scenes.

“There was compromise, but there was also pushback on how companies would try to represent me in their scenes, there was pushback on scripts,” Angela says. “I remember rejecting a lot of scripts that were actually anti-sex-worker, or like slut shaming. There were a lot of scripts that, you know, wanted cat fights, where I would call a woman a ‘slut,’ which I refused to do. There was a lot of makeup and wardrobe that didn't match my brand, that I needed to push back on and compromised with.”

There were also certain brands that she says she “couldn't collaborate with, because I felt that they didn’t represent what I wanted to present on screen, which was an empowered female sexuality.”

Regardless of the star status that she quickly gained, along with a reputation as one of the hardest-working Spiegler Girls, Angela stresses, that period was anything but easy.

“I came in and because I, as a woman, had built a brand and a website, secured a DVD distribution deal and a Fleshlight contract, I had already in some ways proven myself,” she says. “I think that the companies and directors that I was working for did have a lot of respect for me. But in spite of that respect, there was still like, ‘Oh, well, I’m paying you a rate, so you'll do whatever I want.’ Which, clearly, I pushed back on.”

In true Angela White fashion, she was also pushing herself. The scenes in question were not just B/G, G/G or solo. By 2018, a year before her pre-pandemic height, she was putting out 40 to 50 anal scenes, as well as filming numerous group scenes.

“Why do I love group scenes? Where do I begin?” she laughs. “I love group scenes because they are a challenge, they're a physical challenge. And they're also interesting, they're creative. They're also a great opportunity for me to get all the attention and command a room. I love being in a room where I get to command a group of men and get to tell them what I want them to do to me.”

She also likes them because highly-produced group scenes are rare. “Gangbangs are rarely shot because they're very expensive,” she explains. “So when someone books you for a gangbang, it's an honor, because they're saying, ‘I trust you enough, I'm willing to put this kind of money on the line. You're such a good performer that I know that you can execute on this.’ So to me, it's an honor whenever a director like Jonni Darkko or Jules Jordan is willing to put down money for me to do this.”

At no point during our lengthy interview does White express any frustration or negativity over these marathon shoots — or anything else, for that matter. How does she deal with frustration when something doesn't go right on set, a not uncommon occurrence in any form of showbiz?

“I have an advantage,” she replies, giving, naturally, the perfectly poised answer. “I had to work so hard to be in this country, to shoot here, that I know that every day on set is a privilege. So when something happens — for example, if the set runs late, or we're not fed on set, or it's too hot, or it's too cold, or the talent shows up late, whatever it is — I remind myself of how hard I worked to be in this position. To be on set right now, in Hollywood, shooting in the world headquarters of porn production. It is an absolute privilege that I don't think anyone can appreciate in the same way as an immigrant can.”

And then more common-sense wisdom, which may seem tough to follow to us mortals, but from her lips sounds like something we should all try.

“I think what it is, is that I always make the best of any situation,” she adds, those piercing eyes trained on the interviewer. “So for example, the day where it was supposed to be the first gangbang I produced — it was very high-stakes, and I had been mentally preparing for months for this moment — and it all collapsed that morning when the male talents I had carefully chosen started canceling. But after all the emotional, mental, physical preparation, I didn't get upset. I said, ‘What can we do here?’ So as the cancellations started to drop, I'm like, ‘Okay, this is no longer a gangbang. Can we do a DP?’ When it was clear we couldn't even make it a DP, I'm like, ‘We have this location — let's shoot a solo.’”

“I always make the best of the situation,” she adds. “And we got a beautiful solo!”

And then she deadpans, “Expensive — the most expensive solo ever shot.”

Yes, we know, it’s not fair — Angela White is also funny and an engaging conversationalist. But surely it would have been a perfectly reasonable reaction to be angry about the cancellation, no?

“What's that going to do?” she retorts. “Except to get you frustrated? What are you going to do? Being upset about something won't change it. I say, ‘How can I make the best of the situation?”

Besides the folk wisdom that she makes sound so effortless, her self-discipline kink also provides solid bedrock for White in case of unpredictability.

“I’m very big on pre-production and planning,” she says. “So for example, when I do produce my own gangbangs, everyone has their own opinion of how many men make a gangbang but I believe that it takes a minimum of five men. Anything below five is not a gangbang! Actually, old school would be 15 minimum,” she laughs. “But yeah, it’s five so by now I know I'm not going to book five men, because it's likely that someone, or a couple of men are going to have to cancel for whatever reason. So I would always book a minimum of seven. And if seven show up, great, even better. So I am very much prepared.

“I like to try and put everything in place so that things that I think could potentially go wrong on the day of, I try and mitigate that beforehand. Most of the time that has served me very well.”

White says she has not really thought about just directing a project, without performing.

“It's not that I wouldn't consider it,” she says. “It's just that I love performing. So I want to be involved. Plus, I got into the industry to explore my own sexuality. So it's not about just producing a product or making money. It's about my own expression and exploration. So I want to be in it.”

The “OnlyFans revolution” that she anticipated provided a boon for the kind of content that she loves best: all-sex and gonzo.

“In some ways, it's another return for me, the amateur aspect of it,” she says, adding that OnlyFans content could also be called “Gonzo 2.0.”

“While my first scene was professional, when I went back to Australia, much of what was being shot there was amateur, grassroots, feminist. So, in so many ways OnlyFans is a return to me doing much more amateur content.”

In fact, for years, her popular site, AngelaWhite.com, home of her self-owned content long before the era of “premium platforms,” had four monthly updates, with the fourth being a more raw, pro-am scene.

“The other three were professionally shot,” she reminisces. “The solo was really beautiful, the G/G and B/G were very, very highly polished. And then it was that final scene of the month, and that was when we ‘went candid’ and got rid of everything fancy, no lighting, we shot on a handycam, POV, we put it on a counter — and turns out the most popular scenes were candids. I feel that the sexy side of me came out in the solos, the girl/girl, the boy/girl, but it was the candids where it was like Angela the person, it was personality-driven. It was raw, it was no makeup artist. It was hotel rooms.”

White can give lessons on body positions, camera angles and editing beats for most porn genres, with a particular self-taught Ph.D. in her beloved gonzo style.

White praises glamcore productions she has been involved in, but it’s clear where her own creative heart is. For example, she describes Kayden Kross’ “Drive” — the high-profile Deeper feature where she co-starred with a new-to-the-business Maitland Ward — as a “brilliant movie.”

“I loved being part of it. I had great experiences on set, and I really appreciated Kayden giving me such an incredible role to play,” she says. “The movie was a great success. And the fans really enjoyed it. And I value being able to have sex as a character, because sometimes when you do play a character, you can experience sex in a new way. If you really are trying to embody that character, you have sex differently. So I value getting to experience that.

“But ultimately,” she immediately adds, “my goal was to get into the industry to explore my own sexuality — to be Angela White. So that's always going to be my favorite type of porn to shoot. Anything where I can be truly myself and authentic and connect with someone. If I'm going to direct something for my movies or a scene, it's going to be pure, pure sex, gonzo — documentary style.”

Asked if any of her work up until now epitomizes everything she was hoping for in her “broader ethnographic exploration” into her own sexuality, Angela thinks for a second and chooses the one scene to save from the proverbial porn warehouse on fire, or take to the desert island, or place in the time capsule.

“I’d pick my scene with Manuel for ‘Angela, Volume Three,’” she confesses. “I think what I achieved in that scene with Manuel was ultimately one of the most vulnerable moments, not just on camera, but in my life. I think being able to be so vulnerable with someone, even while being filmed, is an achievement.”

She says that every time she goes to a convention — where invariably her lines are the longest, and where she does not leave until she has greeted each and every fan, even after the venue has turned off the lights — “numerous people in that line will almost be in tears telling me about the impact and the beauty of that scene.”

Angela is still struck by the vulnerability she and Ferrara managed to achieve in their dynamite 2017 pair-up, directed by her and shot by Chris Streams. “Credit has to go to Manuel for his ability to be vulnerable,” she adds. “It's a dance. It's not something that you can just go do on your own.”

Still touched by the evocation of the experience, she reminisces about what she considers the most impactful part of that scene.

“I mean, the scene itself is beautiful and authentic and passionate and romantic,” she says. “But after that, we continued to film and it's the aftermath which fans mention the most, seeing me vulnerable. I cried after the scene because it was just such an incredible release. And just knowing that I would go there with someone, and have it be documented so that others could also feel the emotions that I was feeling, that was an incredible achievement.”

Even the New York Post, she says, wrote a piece about the scene, headlining it, “Porn Will Never Get Better Than This,” one of several articles hailing the scene’s extraordinary intimacy.

“I think that the porn industry attracts a certain type of person. A person that is sexually adventurous, a person that is a little kinky and a little freaky, a person that does want to give pleasure to another person. And when I’m paired with people in pornography, those are the kind of people that I have sex with.”

White continues to be selective about whom she works with, always in search of that crucial chemistry she has been chasing since her early explorations.

“Even when I started, I always had the option to say no to a booking,” she says. “I would always vet whoever I was booked with beforehand. I would look up their name, I would look up their scenes, I would see how they performed with other people. I would see if they are a bit more mechanical or robotic, just going through the motions, or whether they were sensual and romantic and actually trying to connect with the other person. I would always ask for the name of the performer that the company was trying to book me with. And then I would do my market research.”

White says this is one of the reasons you very rarely see her shooting with new talent. “I need to watch how they are on screen first,” she explains. “The only time that I work with performers that have very little experience or very little filmography is if I'm getting a lot of recommendations from other people that have already worked with them, other performers that I trust, that know the kind of performer that I want to be paired with.

“I think that the porn industry attracts a certain type of person,” she adds. “A person that is sexually adventurous, a person that is a little kinky and a little freaky, a person that does want to give pleasure to another person. And when I’m paired with people in pornography, those are the kind of people that I have sex with.”

As for the physical attributes she’s naturally drawn to, it’s less about looks than it is about genuine chemistry.

“Some of the top male performers are not ripped, they have more the ‘dad bod,’” White says. “Dick size is one thing that you could argue is a requirement in mainstream pornography. Big dicks are often required to do the positioning, to be able to have a long enough dip that you can have it inserted, penetrate and also open up for the light. So it's just something that's necessary to do the positions. But I think now with OnlyFans and other creator platforms, a lot of the material is much more intimate, so you're not necessarily needing to show the penetration. So I don't think dick size is as important for OnlyFans.”

White points out that, as production has evolved to be more inclusive and ethical, modern pornography has become “one of the most inclusive forms of media in terms of body types, sexual expression, gender identity. She points to Brazzers, with whom she is contracted, as exemplifying ethical best practices, adding that they have “an extensive list of acts that we go through as a pre-shoot consent discussion, what acts we are willing to do, not willing to do, feel like doing on the day, and clarifications on the acts, whether it's hard, soft, fast or slow, etc.”

As the interview winds down, Angela White retains an aura of mystery when it comes to her plans for 2023.

“I’m doing a lot of stuff right now, but these are things I’m not ready to announce or to share with anyone yet,” she teases. “So it's hard for me to talk about the future specifically, but also, in general, I’m always wary to forecast directions and trends because no one knows what’s going to happen. All I can say is that more and more adult performers are being recognized as personalities outside of just their adult performance.”

Whatever platform changes or novel delivery mechanisms await, we can be sure that the future of porn will continue to include Angela White — person, icon, brand and business — as she continues the ongoing exploration of her sexuality. It is also safe to say that whatever venture she pursues, Angela’s path will always put sex front and center.

“There are so many reasons why I love the all-sex and gonzo genres,” she says, returning to a topic dear to her. “One of the things I love about it is that there's nowhere to hide. Without a strong narrative, elaborate costumes or an elaborate set, if you just put a guy and a girl on a white couch in a brightly lit room, and you tell them to fuck, the scene has to have chemistry for it to be watchable. When it's bare-bones, you need to see those people constantly connecting with each other for it to be enticing, and entertaining.”

Although she has proven her acting chops and has the trophies to show for it, Angela wants to see the core of porn — the sex performance — get its due recognition.

“Gonzo is the space in which performers can truly showcase their skills,” she concludes, finishing her drink at the Sunset Tower, surrounded by the heavy-duty glitz and glamor of her fellow power players in all walks of showbiz. “It's no-frills.”

But how do you build an audience with just sex performances? How does a porn hopeful stand out of the pack, and the endless stream of little Twitter windows with people having just sex?

“It's the chemistry!” she repeats. “When I create a very deep connection with my on-screen partners, and I am present with them in that moment, once fans see that and they feel it through the screen, they want to see more of that.”

And then she slays, again, with one last perfect quip:

“I think some may just come for the boobs, but then they stay for the rest!”

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